MNE Ep. 83 “November Trip Report, Part 1″
Will and Shannon sit down, with refreshing beverages, to catch you up on their November Walt Disney World trip. Tucked away behind the Dawa Bar in the Harambe village at Disney’s Animal Kingdom is a quiet, serene area. Perfect for podcasting while Princess Peanut (our 2 1/2 year old daughter) naps in her stroller!
This episode might be a bit rough as we’re trying to remember how to podcast. We hope you enjoy catching up with us and hearing about our trip; with great ambient Animal Kingdom sounds to back us up!
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Episode Length: 58 minutes 26 seconds
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MNE Video Blog Ep. 43 “Christmas Holiday Trip Good bye”
Will and Shannon say good-bye to their awesome Walt Disney World Christmas Holiday Trip live from the Magic Kingdom.
We take a quick look back on the trip, recounting all the great friends we hung out with and the magic moments with Princess Peanut. We end this video blog with a glimpse of the Christmas holiday decorations on Main Street.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 42 “A Snafu Day”
Will and Shannon, with the help of the Dysfunctional SuperFamily, talk about how their day didn’t go exactly as planned. But it was still a fun-filled day at Epcot and Disney’s Hollywood Studios in Walt Disney World during the 2009 Christmas Holiday season.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 41 “Not Dancing Lights”
Will and Shannon, with Keegan from The Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek Podcast, bring you updates on their Christmas Holiday trip from the Osborne Spectacle of NOT Dancing Lights.
Unfortunately on December 18, 2009 they were experiencing “technical difficulties”. But we still have fun with our video blog updates. Guest starring the rest of the Dysfunctional SuperFamily!
MNE Video Blog Ep. 40 “Exiting MVMCP”
Catch up with Will and Shannon, with Keegan from The Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek Podcast, as we exit Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party on December 17, 2009.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 39 “Caribbean Beach Resort Bus Stop”
Will and Shannon give a quick review of their stay at Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort. Hear an update on the Princess Peanut. Also, hear how they continue to experience delays in leaving their resort. Find out how Caribbean Beach Resort compares to the other moderate resorts at WDW.
If you enjoy this video blog episode, please leave feedback here or e-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com
Hear more about our trip on the Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 72 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1”.
Check out Will on Twitter at Twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds.
View our WDW December 2009 Flickr Photoset.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 38 “Snow on Main Street”
Before Will and Shannon make a quick exit from the Magic Kingdom, they want to show you the snow falling on Main Street! What an amazing site and really fills one with the Christmas spirit. It’s a must-see Magical experience.
If you enjoy this video blog episode, please leave feedback here or e-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com
Hear more about our trip on the Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 72 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1”.
Check out Will on Twitter at Twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds.
View our WDW December 2009 Flickr Photoset.
If you enjoy this video blog episode, please leave feedback here or e-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com
Hear more about our trip on the ;Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 72 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1”.
Check out Will on Twitter at Twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds.
View our WDW December 2009 Flickr Photoset.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 37 “The Osborne Lights”
Will and Shannon catch you up on their December WDW Trip with a view of The Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights at Disney’s Hollywood Studios.
Princess Peanut makes an appearance!
Hear how Will and Shannon are Embracing the Christmas Spirit at the Most Magical Place on Earth!
If you enjoy this video blog episode, please leave feedback here or e-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com
Hear more about our trip on the Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 72 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1”.
Check out Will on Twitter at Twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds.
View our WDW December 2009 Flickr Photoset.
MNE Ep. 72 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1”
Hello and welcome to Episode 72 of The Magic Never Ends Podcast with Will and Shannon. Follow us on our journey through the Disney parks as they explore the Imagination and Dreams of Disney.
On this episode, we bring you along on our December Walt Disney World 2009 trip.
First, we start on the plane ride to Orlando with Will briefly sharing his pre-trip thoughts while Shannon and Princess Preanut nap.
Next we catch up with Will, Shannon and Princess Peanut on their Disney’s Magical Express bus to share more pre-trip thoughts.
This episode boasts some Holiday Musical interlude from the parks. First from MK with Main Street Philharmonic and finally at Animal Kingdom with the Village Beatnicks. Some great music that maybe you haven’t heard. And if you’ve heard them, they are great to hear again!
Finally catch a sleepy Will and Shannon during late night Magic Kingdom park hours as they detail their trip during the first few days.
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Episode Length: 1 hours 05 minutes 58 seconds
MNE Ep. 71 “Baby WDW Travel Stories With Mouse Guest Weekly”
Whoa! Did we just take a 2-month hiatus? Sorry. We didn’t mean to take that long break! But spending time with the Princess Peanut and then Halloween and Thanksgiving came, filling up our schedule. Hopefully you missed us and are ready for some more Will and Shannon audio shenanigans!!!
The bulk of this episode was recorded back in September. Eric and Cathy, from the Mouse Guest Weekly Podcast, join to swap stories and share tips about traveling to Walt Disney World with an infant. We enjoyed sharing experiences with other parents and even learning a few things.
Eric and Cathy want to earn their Tween Card, so we test them by asking their thoughts on “Wizards of Waverly Place: The Movie”.
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Episode Length: 1 hours 56 minutes 6 seconds
MNE Ep. 70 “The Wave, Wizards and Wackiness”
On this episode of the Magic Never Ends Podcast, we’ve got The Wave, Wizards and Wackiness!!!
Shannon reviews The Wave restaurant at Disney’s Contemporary Resort. Hear Shannon’s “foodie” take on this new restaurant to Will and Shannon.
Embrace Your Inner Tween with a review of the newest Disney Channel Original Movie, Wizards of Waverly Place The Movie! What did the Tweens think of the full length movie treatment of the popular Disney Channel series?
Wackiness abound as Will and Shannon catch up on YOUR e-mails. Yes. We’re quite behind on the e-mails. Sorry! But please still send in your e-mails and voice mails. Will and Shannon have fun hearing from you and giving out advice from their trip experiences.
Can’t forget that we’ve got Carlos (The Northern Mouse Podcast) and daughter Chantal to review the Jonas Brother Toronto concert! They go into excellent detail about the experience that is a JoBros Concert Experience.
Also we have a fun audio from two friends taking part of “What Will You Celebrate?” at Disneyland.
Follow along with us on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
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Episode Length: 1 hours 40 minutes 24 second
MNE Ep. 69 “August WDW 2009 Trip Rewind and Remix”
On this episode of the Magic Never Ends Podcast, hear the REWIND and REMIX of the August 2009 Walt Disney World vacation, which celebrated Will and Shannon’s NINE years of marriage and the birth of the Princess Peanut.
This is a not-to-be-missed episode, as Shannon takes you on an “in your mind” exploration of the Treehouse Villas at Disney’s Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, which is a one of the newest Disney Vacation Club offerings. These Villas are so beautiful and amazing!!
We also recount our adventures (and mis-adventures) with Disney’s Grand Gathering Safari Experience.
Ever the proud papa, Will updates you on the Princess Peanut’s latest developments. He appreciates you indulging him time to gush about his beautiful daughter’s achievements!
Lots of DAP, shout-outs and the usual Will and Shannon audio shenanigans as we finish off the remaining days of our trip and reflect upon the trip as a whole. We have lots to cover so we super-sized this episode! Don’t be scared. Just grab your favorite snack and beverage…or better yet, take us along on your walk, bike ride or run!
Did you listen to Part 1? Head over to MagicNeverEnds.com and look for Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 67!
Did you listen to Part 2? Head over to MagicNeverEnds.com and look for Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 68!
Follow along with us on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com or call the Voice Mail number at 206-350-2422.
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Episode Length: 2 hours 11 minutes 22 seconds
MNE Ep. 68 “August WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 2″
Will and Shannon have returned from our Walt Disney World vacation, which celebrated their NINE years of marriage and the birth of the Princess Peanut.
On this episode of the Magic Never Ends Podcast, hear our PART 2 WDW August 2009 trip report LIVE from our return flight on Southwest Airlines. Not as exciting as Part 1, when Will and Shannon were in the Magic Kingdom right after Wishes and you heard the Kiss Goodnight…but Will and Shannon still bring the audio shenanigans!
Did you hear Part 1? Head over to MagicNeverEnds.com and look for Magic Never Ends Podcast Episode 67!
We begin this Episode about to board our superfast limo ride, which is also our last ride for the trip. We’re having a last bit of shenanigans with good friends Kyra and Jen from the ConnieJenKyra Family, Annie, Brady, d_dreamer and Katie. It was Brady’s and Mrs. Buckethead’s FIRST time on Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith!!!! Hear quickly their post-ride thoughts!! (Which is mostly Mrs. Buckethead screaming excitedly!) Tune into The Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek Podcast for the full adventure of Mrs. Buckethead’s FIRST TIME on Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster!!!
From Disney’s Hollywood Studios, grab a seat with Will and Shannon on their flight to BWI Airport as they pick up their trip report from Episode 67. They skip around and ramble a bit. It’s Will and Shannon being Will and Shannon!
Sorry for the lower audio quality for the Trip Report discussions. I tweaked it as best as possible given that we had to deal with the background airplane noise.
Princess Peanut and the flight conspire to prevent the Tweens from completing their Trip Report, so look for Episode 69 as they Rewind and Remix all the details from the August WDW 2009 Trip!
You can follow along with our trip on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com or call the Voice Mail number at 206-350-2422.
If you enjoy this episode, please review us in iTunes!
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Episode Length: 53 minutes 31 seconds
MNE Ep. 67 “August WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 1″
We are currently in Walt Disney World!!!
On this episode of the Magic Never Ends Podcast, hear our PART 1 WDW August 2009 trip report LIVE from the Magic Kingdom!!!
You’ll also hear the Kiss Goodnight.
You can follow along with our trip on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com or call the Voice Mail number at 206-350-2422.
If you enjoy this episode, please review us in iTunes!
Stop by theDPN.com to discuss this episode and find other like-minded Disney fans.
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Episode Length: 43 minutes 50 seconds
MNE Ep. 66 “August WDW 2009 Pre-Trip Report”
We are currently in Walt Disney World!!!
On this episode of the Magic Never Ends Podcast, hear our pre-trip thoughts on what we think and hope we’ll accomplish and experience during our WDW August 2009 trip!! The food. The attractions. All the fun with the much more aware Princess Peanut!!!
Will begins the episode updating Shannon on Disney news, (Tween, park and movie news). We then update you on the Princess Peanut! Finally, we share some recent listener feedback before getting into the Main Topic of the August WDW 2009 Pre-Trip Report.
You can follow along with our trip on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com or call the Voice Mail number at 206-350-2422.
If you enjoy this episode, please review us in iTunes!
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Episode Length: 1 hour 36 minutes 41 seconds
MNE Video Blog Ep. 36 “Disney Magic Recap Part 2″
Will and Shannon finish their recap of their November 2008 7-night Disney Magic cruise vacation while on a Disney Magical Express bus to the Walt Disney World Resort. Hear them recounting the last bits of fun they had on their cruise trip. Please check out MNE Video Blog Ep. 35 for the first part to this video.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 35 “Disney Magic Recap Part 1″
Will and Shannon begin their recap of their November 2008 7-night Disney Magic cruise vacation while on a Disney Magical Express bus to the Walt Disney World Resort. Hear the first part of two videos recounting the last bits of fun they had on their cruise trip.
MNE Video Blog Ep. 33 “Disney Magic Semi-Formal Night”
Wow! Where has this video been hiding? I was searching through my files and noticed that I still had some unpublished Magic Never Ends Video Blogs?!?! I need to QUICKLY get these remaining video blogs OUT!
Let’s go back to Will and Shannon’s November 2008 Disney Cruise vacation aboard the Disney Magic. Before the Princess Peanut arrived.
It’s Day 6. Will and Shannon bring you their updates just outside the Buena Vista Theatre.
It was a fun day of:
- Breakfast at Lumiere’s
- Fun Character Pictures
- Castle Discussion with Imagineer, Alex Wright, who also worked on the “The Imagineering Field Guide” book series.
- Disney Dreams stage show
MNE Ep. 63 “A Dysfunctional Silly Westfest Discussion”
Hello and welcome to another episode of The Magic Never Ends Podcast with Will and Shannon…and the Princess Peanut…and Ashley the Producer!
We had a full weekend so Will is using part of his pre-work “get ready time” to record an intro/update. The 4 of us are hanging out in the MNE sub-studio to chat with you before bringing you the main audio piece.
Returning to the night we hung out with the Dysfunctional SuperFamily from The Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek podcast and Matt the Esquire from The Mouse Droppings podcast. We shift the topic to our thoughts on Disneyland and Westfest. This was the last recording of the night so we’re all fully Embracing our Wackiness. So sit back and enjoy the Dysfunctional Sillyness.
*Headphones suggested*
If you listened to Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek Ep. 53, then you’ve heard our Disneyland/Westfest discussion…albeit a more colorful verison. We ask you to listen to the first nine minutes for the Will and Shannon updates.
Check out The Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek podcast on iTunes or at http://www.teenagedisneygeek.com!
Check out The Mouse Droppings podcast on iTunes or at http://www.mousedroppingspodcast.com!
Magic Never Ends is the podcast where you follow the weekly shenanigans of two Disney fans as they Embrace the Magic, Imagination, and Dreams of Disney.
Were YOU at DPN Westfest 2009? What were some of your memories and experiences?
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com.
Call us at 206-350-2422. You call that number and you will be heard on a future episode!!
Visit us at http://www.magicneverends.com for more ways to connect with us as well as other hilarious content.
When planning your next vacation, please contact Jana at jsmith@mainstreettravelco.com or Toll Free at 1(800)593-1262. Tell her that Will and Shannon sent you!
Episode Length: 1 hour 08 minutes 35 seconds
MNE Ep. 61 “Princess Peanut’s First Disneyland Trip”
Here begins the audio shenanigans of the Two Kingdom Tour 2009!
We begin at Disneyland for DPN Westfest 2009. More importantly though, Will and Shannon are at Disneyland as part of the “What Will You Celebrate?” promotion.
What are they celebrating? THE PRINCESS PEANUT!!! She takes her first trip to Disneyland! Which is also her first trip to a Disney park! She even gets to ride some Disneyland attractions!
Join a HUGE cast of Special Guests that includes Liana (HeavenIsDisneyland), Sassy, Sheila (disneyfan822), Jon from Minnesota (wdwfanjon), Brian Sommer, Brad (Bringing Disneyland Home Vidcast), Mike from MiceCast, Keegan (Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek), Burnt Toast, Josh, Dave (disney_trooper), Joel (Coconut Wireless), Holly, nickmonte, HarmonyBelle, POD, Earl (Trapped On Vacation)
This episode will give you a great idea of the purpose of DPN Westfest – friends hanging out at the Disneyland Resort and having fun! Did you miss DPN Westfest 2009? Don’t miss DPN Westfest 2010! Check out www.DPNWestfest.com for more details.
Make sure to listen to Adventures of a Teenage Disney Geek Ep 52: Adventures in Disneyland! As you will hear what Keegan does after he “ditches” us. His podcast is available in iTunes or at http://www.teenagedisneygeek.com/.
Magic Never Ends is the podcast where you follow the weekly shenanigans of two Disney fans as they Embrace the Magic, Imagination, and Dreams of Disney.
Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com.
Call us at 206-350-2422. You call that number and you will be heard on a future episode!!
Visit us at http://www.magicneverends.com for more ways to connect with us as well as other hilarious content.
When planning your next vacation, please contact Jana at jsmith@mainstreettravelco.com or Toll Free at 1(800)593-1262. Tell her that Will and Shannon sent you!
Episode Length: 1 hour 32 minutes 28 seconds
MNE Ep. 59 “Westfest Two Kingdom Tour Pre-Trip Ramblings”
Will and Shannon take a break from packing to give you their Two Kingdom Tour pre-trip thoughts, which quickly turns into an episode full of ramblings!
What is the Two Kingdom Tour? Well it takes your favorite Pixie Dust Infused Tweens to Disneyland for DPN Westfest 2009 and to Walt Disney World!! All part of Disney’s “What Will You Celebrate?” excitement, Will and Shannon are celebrating the birth of the Princess Peanut by taking her to their two favorite places:
DISNEYLAND!!!
WALT DISNEY WORLD!!!!
Make sure you follow along on The Two Kingdom Tour on:
Twitter (www.twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds)
Plurk (www.plurk.com/MagicNeverends)
…and of course on YouTube (www.YouTube.com/WillMNE) for the MNE Video Blogs, where you’re sure to see some fun and silly people!
Magic Never Ends is the podcast where you follow the weekly shenanigans of two Disney fans as they Embrace the Magic, Imagination, and Dreams of Disney.
Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
E-mail us at podcast@magicneverends.com.
Call us at 206-350-2422. You call that number and you will be heard on a future episode!!
Visit us at http://www.magicneverends.com for more ways to connect with us as well as other hilarious content.
When planning your next vacation, please contact Jana at jsmith@mainstreettravelco.com or Toll Free at 1(800)593-1262. Tell her that Will and Shannon sent you!
Episode Length: 59 minutes 51 seconds
Westfest 2009 Master Planning Spreadsheet Revealed!
Will and Shannon’s proposed Westfest 2009 itinerary. As always, it is subject to change. But this is how it looks pre-trip.
What is the Master Planning Spreadsheet?
The Master Planning Spreadsheet (MPSS) is how Will plans out his trip itineraries to Walt Disney World and Disneyland. It takes into account park hours (including Extra Magic Hours), dining reservations, shows, park rehabs, and special events. This allows Will to feel as if he can Embrace the Magic as much as possible!
It doesn’t plan out to the second park touring though. Its purpose is to establish blocks of activity time.
It may sound obsessive. It may sound insane! But it works for those that use it correctly. Ask anyone that has toured a Disney park with Will and they all agree to the funness and practicality of the Master Planning Spreadsheet.
What’s the Focus of this MPSS?
Although we’re going for DPN Westfest, this trip is still a family vacation. We don’t have an opportunity to visit Disneyland very often so we need to find a good balance between Westfest meets and family park time.
We might be able to make more Westfest meets. We might not be able to make Rope Drop every morning or stay until park close every night.
But this is the plan pre-trip. More likely, this is the hope of what we can accomplish on the trip. As time and circumstances dictate, plans change so things could get dropped or added.
Are You Attending Westfest?
You should be attending!! We hope to see you in the park. Especially at the meets hosted by the Magic Never Ends and the Travelears! Those are sure to be most fun!!!
Visit DPNWestfest.com for more information, including event schedules and media from past Westfests.
Unfortunately, we probably will be unable to add you to any dining reservations, but we would encourage you to make your own reservations!
Questions? Comments?
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MNE Ep. 73 “December WDW 2009 Live Trip Report Part 2”
Hello and welcome to Episode 73 of The Magic Never Ends Podcast with Will and Shannon. Follow us on our journey through the Disney parks as they explore the Imagination and Dreams of Disney.
On this episode, we bring you along on for the conclusion of our December Walt Disney World 2009 trip!
I know…I know… We’re WAAAAYYYY behind…and took another long (unplanned) hiatus. We begin this episode with life updates, catching you up what we’ve been to these past few months. We are back to our rambling selves as we might be a bit rusty in podcast. But this is hopefully why you (in part) tune into Will and Shannon; to hear their fun, witty banter.
This is a longer-show than originally planned…again, the silly rambling took over! With us being on the hiatus, we had some magic saved up so enjoy this jam packed episode.
The in-park audio begins with a very excited Princess Peanut in line to see Santa Goofy! It’s a very cute and special vacation memory for Will and Shannon.
Then follow along Will, Shannon and Princess Peanut as we take you to Disney’s Hollywood Studios, Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort, Space Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.
Join us next episode for Westfest 2009 audio!!!
Don’t forget about Westfest 2010, 4/29/2010 – 5/2/2010 at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, California!
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Follow along with us on Twitter at twitter.com/MagicNeverEnds
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Episode Length: 1 hours 53 minutes 10 seconds
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